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    First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

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    John

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    First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  John on Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:48 pm

    Please be very careful before employing the services of these builders. They are based in Bromley and are great with the talk when tendering for the job but have left a customer we know in tatters with shoddy workmanship and walking off the job after taking lots of money and not delivering.

    John

    pooky

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    First 4 Renovations Asad Ahmed

    Post  pooky on Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:27 am

    I agree wholeheartedly with John about Asad Ahmed and First 4 Renovations. We know of six building projects where Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan have ripped people off and ruined people's lives. Mr Ahmed has conned people out of thousands of pounds, and somehow still manages to operate. Despite the many County Court Judgments against him, he carries on trading with impunity.
    Look him up on Facebook, he is now dealing in diamonds and jet chartering!
    Be extremely careful, he will charm the pants off you to begin with, but he will steal your money and leave you with nothing but a financial mess.

    jimmy789

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    Charming...

    Post  jimmy789 on Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:48 am

    This man has ruined my marriage. We had them come round to do a quote for us in December. Now my wife has run off with him. Charm the pants off is ano understatement... I thought things were a bit suspicious when i started to see texts on her phone to him late at night, and she would often call him to "check" the quote.

    Becareful with your money and your woman around him.

    First 4

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  First 4 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:58 am

    Firstly First 4 Renovations is no longer trading. Asad Ahmed has not run the company for over a year now, and acted only as a Sales rep, he has no building experience, and did not get involved in any building work.

    The company has many excellent references, who all customers check and visit.

    The above comments are ludicris, all work is done in stage payments, so when a stage is completed, a building inspector from the coucil signs the work off, then the customer pays... So NO customer can be left financially out of pocket, and as the work is independantly checked before any payments are made, how can any work be sub standard?

    As for running off with someones wife??? Lol. Asad may be a damn good looking fella with a charming personality, but that is a bit over the top?

    This post should be removed as it is inacurate, and harmful to the reputation of an innocent party- namely Asad Ahmed...

    If anyone has any queries feel free to contact me at christian@first4group.co.uk

    John

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    First 4 / Asad Ahmed /Christian Lordan - AVOID !!!!

    Post  John on Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:32 am

    Please avoid these builders for your own protection. Both Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan are gaining a growing reputation for leaving many innocent victims in tatters.

    Spread the work as it is our duty to protect others from the fate many past clients have faced - no thanks to individuals with little morals and care for anyone but themselves !

    They are highly skilled at painting a deceiving picture with the sales chat and questionable references .....

    No doubt they will be operating under a different banner from First 4 given their past actions !



    Chris

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    Asad Ahmed / First 4

    Post  Chris on Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:20 pm

    A neighbour of ours has recently been hit again by Asad Ahmed so called 'builder/Sales rep' ! They obviously are still operating and still up to their tricks. Be VERY careful if you are unlucky enough to come accross him !!

    Jo18

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    Crooks!

    Post  Jo18 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:35 pm

    Unfortunately I have to agree with all the negative comments about this company which trades also as "premier extensions", they great at sales talk but they will still your money and will not deliver any of their promises! Shame I've found this forum too late for me to avoid this " premier mistake"... Stay away from those crooks - Asad and Christian!

    pooky

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    Asad Ahmed / Christian Lordan First 4 Renovations

    Post  pooky on Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:55 am

    These two conmen will be exposed on Cowboy Builders on channel 5
    on Thursday 28 July at 9pm.
    Make sure you watch it and spread the news

    mazzapoid

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  mazzapoid on Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:37 am

    But on the C5 website, next week is a father and son team in Bradford??
    http://www.channel5.com/shows/cowboy-builders/episodes

    basca

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    Completely Scam!

    Post  basca on Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:26 am

    Completely Scam. If you want more information about First4Renovation, Asad and Christian, check Channel 5 at the end of August.
    Cowboybuilders...that are not cowboybuilders there are thieves.

    basca

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  basca on Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:29 am

    pooky wrote:These two conmen will be exposed on Cowboy Builders on channel 5
    on Thursday 28 July at 9pm.
    Make sure you watch it and spread the news

    The program has been moved to the 25th of August

    asad12345

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  asad12345 on Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:33 am

    For any one who has anything to say, 07549 342 813. All waffle, if you want to meet to discuss anything, my number is here. Never been a muggy builder in my life... Stop being lying cowards and meet up? Stop hiding behind silly forums, pathetic.

    Busted

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  Busted on Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:35 am

    Wow just watching cowboy builders now, as I myself are having an extension built.

    Where are the horses? Yeeeeehaaaaaa. Cowboy builders to the max.

    bill

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    Premier Extensions

    Post  bill on Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:26 am

    Just watched Cowboy builders, is very clear that these guys (Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan) are real conmen. Also looks like Asad is a very nasty piece of work (what an ugly guy!!!)- don't trust them, they will just rip you off. They are trading under the name Premier Extensions now, so avoid that too.

    John

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  John on Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:34 am

    Go to cowboy builders website and draw your own conclusions about Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan

    http://www.channel5.com/shows/cowboy-builders/episodes/episode-4-306

    One day they will get a conscience when life catches up with them but until then more innocent families are sadly going to be left in tatters !

    All who read this please spread the word about these scumbags we have a duty to protect people and the best way of doing this is to give maximum exposure to what they are up to !



    terryhh

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    first 4 renovations/asad ahmed/christian lordan/premier builders AVOID AVOID AVOID

    Post  terryhh on Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:35 pm

    Do not believe any positive comments re these that are posted as all are either by them or associates.
    I am one of the victims featured on "Cowboy Builders" "I've met that guy" says Dom, and can verify that these guys and any associates are to be avoided at all costs.
    They will appear friendly/co-operative at the begining of a project but things will rapidly go downhill,although payments will still be expected,and many excuses given for failure to complete work, or even show up!
    Understand that even after all the negative publicity they are still active so beware.

    basca

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    first 4 renovations/asad ahmed/christian lordan/premier builders AVOID AVOID AVOID on Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:35 am

    Post  basca on Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:00 pm

    Completely agree with Terry.
    Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan AVOID AVOID!
    I am trying to report them on as many places as possible,they need to stop, but I hope the TV program helped to exposed them.


    basca

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  basca on Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:00 pm

    basca wrote:Completely agree with Terry.
    Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan AVOID AVOID!
    I am trying to report them on as many places as possible,they need to stop, but I hope the TV program helped to exposed them.


    pooky

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    Asad Ahmed and Christian Lordan

    Post  pooky on Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:47 pm

    What can we do to stop them? They are now trading as Premier Extensions, do you really think that they are going to behave from now on?
    They are stealing money from people, hundreds of thousands pounds, I find it unbelievable that they can carry on with impunity. How can we help? Any ideas?

    Steve0

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  Steve0 on Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:40 am

    asad12345 wrote:For any one who has anything to say, 07549 342 813. All waffle, if you want to meet to discuss anything, my number is here. Never been a muggy builder in my life... Stop being lying cowards and meet up? Stop hiding behind silly forums, pathetic.

    Noone wants to discuss anything with you Asad. Would be a total waste of anyones breath.

    What people are going to do / should do, is pressure Bromley Police to investigate the pair of you scumbags and put you behind bars and sieze your assets as proceeds of crime and make sure both your ugly mugs are pictured and available online.

    In the meantime, heres a screen grab of you on Cowboy Builders....:

    (legal bit about photo: Public domain, pic obtained via screen grab from Channel5 website)


    terryhh

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    Asad Ahmed Comment

    Post  terryhh on Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:40 am

    Obviously not that pathetic if Asad reviews the forum comments!
    Pot and Kettle comes to mind.
    I remember quoting "The Sword of Damocles" as a parting shot, after all the issues and his failure to keep to the contract re my build.One day the sword will fall!(A metaphor Asad)
    The more publicity the better,re their attempts to fleece the public.
    Phoning Asad would be futile,the evidence is clear to all,after all he is only a salesman according to him!!!

    Steve0

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  Steve0 on Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:52 am

    terryhh wrote:Obviously not that pathetic if Asad reviews the forum comments!
    Pot and Kettle comes to mind.
    I remember quoting "The Sword of Damocles" as a parting shot, after all the issues and his failure to keep to the contract re my build.One day the sword will fall!(A metaphor Asad)
    The more publicity the better,re their attempts to fleece the public.
    Phoning Asad would be futile,the evidence is clear to all,after all he is only a salesman according to him!!!


    To be blunt Asad Ahmed isnt anything except a well known Bromley Crook. A complete low life.

    I would doubt that ANY builds have EVER been completed.


    pooky

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  pooky on Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:32 pm

    Let's get together and put pressure on Bromley Police about Asad and Christian, after all they are well known already as local crooks. Is there a way their assets could be seized? It is theft and fraud, isn't it?
    How many more people's lives are they going to destroy?
    It feels so unfair that despite the fact they have been exposed, nothing has happened to them.
    People go to jail for a lot less, why is Civil Law so useless?

    musosman

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    Re: First4 Rennovations/ Asad Ahmed - Builders

    Post  musosman on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:04 am

    Would like to see if any people with brains have read between the lines of First 4 Renovations and the exaggerated and one sided Cowboy Builders Programme. CAN ANYONE SAY THE FOLLOWING IS FALSE:

    Was all work done checked by 3rd party building inspectors and architects and signed off at various stages? YES, All work was checked at a minimum of weekly intervals, by third parties, who all confirmed work was being done to high level. Builds are not allowed to continue if a building inspector does not sign off every stage.

    Did the Cowboy Builders Team have a problem with the work? NO, They confirmed done by "Professionals".

    Why does Terry from Burgess Hill say the job cost £50k over budget to complete? When First 4's staff stayed onsite and finished the job, in a period were the worst snowfall for years fell in the 3 months of the job! Public Records show Terry sued First 4 for just over £2000 over budget at Northampton CC NOT £50k. Also First 4's quotation was £30k less expensive than his other 5 quotes! So Mr Greedy actually had his work completed for less than RRP, got a £2k bonus and I believe a half price kitchen using First 4's Trade Discounts, and a whole new side and back main roof for £4200 Of which a balance was still due.

    The program also fails to show Cosetta and her cannabis smoking paramedic husband actually had a substantial cash refund by Asad Ahmed personally. They also recieved a more than full refund judgement by a court, as First 4 never showed to the hearing. The program failed to outline that Cosetta's husband was put on a Neighbourhood Watch list for stalking staffs families homes, and when told not to, reported the staff to the police, who laughed off his allegations. Cosetta is free in admitting that the quote by First 4 was £20,000 cheaper than anyone else.

    Mr and Mrs Marr's appearance. The work was commended by cowboy builders as have been done by professionals. They remark that all that the Marrs had done was a base and two walls? Yes, the complete project was a base, two walls, steels and a roof. TV does like to make things sound dramatic. If you watch the program closly and listen between the acting, the Cowboy builders team estimated it would take 5 days to complete? They actually did it in 8 working days. NOW, they say there was £16,000 left on the contract when First 4 walked away? So how are they financially out of pocket? 8 days labour and 2 steel beams and roof materials does not add upto £16000!!! It would hardly have cost £7k to finish. No wonder Cowboy builders managed to redo the living room, repaint and floor everwhere, furnish the living area and redo the garden, with the change!!!

    Where is the financial losses here to anyone? To reiterate, no one paid any money over and above the point where First 4 never turned up. Minus a 10% deposit, all payments were in arrears after a building inspector checked the work, and all payments were pre agreed with the customers.

    Asad Ahmed has never been a builder, never professed to be a builder. Asad Ahmed was not a Director of First 4 Renovations from 2/6/2010!!!

    Asad never did any of the work on the sites, and was only involved in the sales of certain projects

    All information was provided to Cowboy Builders by phone and email, which they show on the programme, before Dominic Littlewoods rather dashing "Go, go, go" raid. Which was edited too.

    All information was also given to Pinchet productions prior to Dominic Littlewoods, "raid" on the former offices- which he knew were left the year before... All information relating to the company was also provided by email, before Dominic found his magic "black bag" of evidence (or business cards normal people call it!).

    P.S. The Asad Ahmed mentioned above is not responsible for the civil war in Syria or 3rd world famine.

    John

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    ASAD AHMED

    Post  John on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:49 am

    This guy will get what he deserves soon enough the net is closing ! His future victims would all be better off if he did get a grenade stuck up his backside in Syria Smile

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